This is Anne... Complete and Real
Categorizing Punk Rock
Published on December 31, 2003 By Tangled Wishes In Music
The category of "punk rock" is a topic that I have brought up and complained about countless times with my friends. It happens to be one of those things that hits the sore spot, and I feel as though I should support the beloved punk rock genre.

Just recently, I was reading an online article that listed popular bands in several genres. I agreed with mostly everything I saw, until the part that read "punk" and followed with Simple Plan and Good Charlotte. This reminds me of a conversation I had with my friend Rachel, who mentioned a male friend of hers as listening to the Beach Boys, and also Simple Plan and Bowling For Soup. We both thought this incredibly funny.

First of all, I must say I am in no way discrediting the abilities of Simple Plan, Bowling for Soup, and Good Charlotte as musicians. I am also not taking pot shots at their fans, or their songs. I am, very simply, stating that these artists are in no way punk rock, as the music world these days seems to be forgetting.

When the words "punk rock" are mentioned, they immediately bring to my mind visions of the Sex Pistols, the Ramones, the Vandals, Rancid, and NoFX. I hear punk rifts in the background, lyrics such as "God save the Queen, she ain't no human being, There is no future in England's dreaming" or "Twenty-twenty-twenty four hours to go I wanna be sedated, Nothin' to do and no where to go-o-o I wanna be sedated, Just put me in a wheelchair get me to the show, Hurry hurry hurry before I gotta go." These are definitely punk lyrics. I most definitely do NOT think of such lyrics as "I'd do anything, Just to fall asleep with you, Will you remember me?, 'Cuz I know I won't forget you." This does not sound like punk rock at all. And neither does the music that goes along with it, the poppy guitars and harmonies. Try to remember if Joey Ramone harmonized, and if he did, did he ever sound so good?

The answer is no, and for a reason. I highly doubt that Joey Ramone ever even wanted to harmonize. I think Joey Ramone was in it for the music, the message, and his message was not to get the girl all the bad guys want. And if Johnny Rotten watched wrestling, I will bet you anything he didn't do it for Nancy Spungeon. (Maybe I shouldn't say that, Nancy was a pretty scary character and if she told ME to watch wrestling I would NOT be the one to argue with a heoin-addict.)

Maybe it's sweet that Simple Plan and Good Charlotte aren't doing heroin and killing themselves in hotel rooms. Maybe it's sweet that they aren't smashing guitars at concerts. Their music is just as sweet.

But punk rock is NOT sweet, and the truth of this is pretty self evident. Rancid knows this. NoFX most definitely knows this. The Sex Pistols knew. Maybe next time you want to call those pussy pop bands punk rock, you should do a little investigating. Listen to "God Save the Queen," or "Blitzkrieg Bop," or "Detroit," and ask yourself one of these questions:
A. Do I want to categorize these totally awesome bands with some stupid radio pop shit like Simple Plan or Good Charlotte,
or if you are one of the unlucky,
B. Do I want to categorize my nice, sweet, harmonizing, melodious Simple Plan and Good Charlotte with this angry, hard core stuff?

Just as Bowling for Soup asks, "Does a mullet make a man," ask yourselves, "Does a mohawk make a punk rock band?"

~Anne~
Comments
on Dec 31, 2003
This is GREAT! I was in a band for a short time in 2003 and the bassist said he liked Punk, so I was like oh cool I love The Sex Pistols and I started talking about The Pixies and Ramones and everything and he was like "yeah isn't Blink-182 cool?" I didn't know what to say. I also remember the first song he picked for us to cover was Fuel's "Bad Day"... I was not thrilled about that. When I left the band, we were parting on good terms and he said we had the most simlar taste in music but he was into punk more than me but he had never heard of all The Ramones or The Pixies. Hmmm. Okay one last thing : what do you think about At The Drive-In / Thursday? I like their music and they could be modern punk I think.
on Dec 31, 2003
Yeah I feel the same way when they named Led Zepplin the Heavy Metal Godfathers. I almost fell out of my seat in pulsating anger. Anyone who lives and listens to heavy metal will tell that Black Sabbath and Scropions were the Godfathers. But the music industry is a bunch of morons ~chuckles~ so I don't pay it much mind anymore but I sure was riled up good on that day.

You forgot Black Flag and the Dead Kennedy's and oh how I miss IggyPop and the Sex Pistols Oh and does anyone remember Public Enemy?
on Jan 01, 2004
Well first off I better cover myself by saying, don't worry, in no way do I feel that the Ramones and Pistols are the only punk bands ever!! Goodness no! I most CERTAINLY did not forget Black Flag, Iggy, or anyone. It just would have been an even longer read if I added all the real punk bands out there... And Frog Attack, I know how you feel about the Blink situation. Everytime someone tells me they like Blink I laugh. (This is embarrassing but true) Yes I listened to them way back in like 6th grade before they "sold out" (my biggest musical pet peeve, I can go on for hours about all the sell out artists) when they had purple hair and I was just a kid, but my taste has changed. Wisened, you know? Though I regret to say I don't know At the Drive In/ Thursday, perhaps I should check them out?
Thanks y'all
on Feb 14, 2004
i happned to be surfing the net when i saw your article and how i must say we live in a free country i totally disagree uit ya. why?! because i think that if you want to make yourself heard and if you want people to agree with you and you want them to think like you do, you got to do that honestly without discrediting some bands and using nasty words just because you think they dont deserve a certain spot in the music industry. good charlotte and simple plan happen to be two of my favorites bands but i have always been able to listen people's opinios about them even if they were bad. but you are not right and i have to say(no offence) if so many say they are punk rock that probably means they are and also probably means you got them wrong. i hope you didn't take this personally. it's just an opinion of mine. tenx. see ya later
on Feb 18, 2004
Whoa, hold on, if I want people to agree with me and like me? That's not the point of this at all. I am not offended, nor did I take your comment personally, but I very strongly disagree.

I stand by my firm belief that Good Charlotte and Simple Plan are not punk, though many people may like them, and many people may think that they're great. But to call them punk? It's like calling Ja Rule gangsta rap. (Heehee)
on Feb 18, 2004
I agree 100%. Eyeliner and mousse do not a punk make. Good Charlotte is a sign of the apocalypse, imo.

The problem is that punk rock never really decided what punk rock was, and now it is too late. I have heard that people say that the Ramones really weren't punk, that they were too lyrical and popish, and that true punk solidified much later with bands like Rancid. I disagree with that, but in a genre that supposedly includes bands from the Sex Pistols, the Clash all the way to to (God help us) Adam Ant, I don't see any end to it.

Have you seen some of the bands listed on PunkRock.org? My god, the Afghan Whigs? Soundgarden??? I like them, but I didn't even consider them alternative when they supposedly WERE alternative...